#deadfoot wc

[lockede-x-it]

Like I agree entirely with the Cinderpelt post, but I think it's perhaps because Cinderpelt had a hind leg injury, rather than a forepaw. This is quite a significant difference especially for cats. (E.g, an inability to pounce normally). Granted, I don't think the Erins thought of this, but it's something worth mentioning because I never see it brought up in this discussion.

(note: i am not a veterinarian or super knowledgeable on cat physiology so i'm purely just going off what i know of basic injury. if someone who IS more qualified in that field sees this post and wants to correct anything i say here, go right ahead! i honestly just want an end to this debate. with that said, the answer to this ask is under the cut)

purely because i'm actually getting tired of people constantly bringing this up: cats are very adaptive and they can do just fine on three legs after enough time to recover!

yes, having an injured back leg and a deformed front paw are very different injuries! however, because i doubt the Erins really considered it while writing these characters, we don't know just how bad Cinderpelt's injury was!

from a lot of the counterpoints i've seen saying that Cinderpelt's injury was more severe, a lot of them seem to make it out that Cinder's hip bone was shattered or badly injured. if her hip was shattered, she wouldn't be able to walk at all on her back legs (think Briarlight). if it was badly injured to where it never healed well, i imagine she wouldn't be able to walk far without taking frequent breaks (which is never mentioned as i'm reading through the books right now (currently at the halfway point of The Darkest Hour, long after Cinder became mobile again))

regardless, neither Cinderpelt NOR Deadfoot seem to be able to put any weight on their affected limbs. both injuries would affect how well they'd be able to hunt or fight effectively compared to an abled cat and therefore both would put into question their ability to be "true" warriors in the eyes of their clanmates.

Deadfoot was born with his injury, yes, but why should that mean Cinderpelt can't be given a chance to adapt to her injury and work towards being a Warrior as well? i don't think the point in both cats lives in which they got their conditions matters much in this context and moreso of just how much they actually affect the cat which, again, the Erins don't give us a super clear idea of! also Brightheart was rendered half-blind and half-deaf after the dog attack but she was easily given her opportunity to prove herself as a warrior not long after she recovered in the same arc!! (which isnt the same as a leg injury but it still goes to show how fucked this inconsistency is)

if you want to interpret that either cat's injury is worse or better than the other's, go ahead. but because of the above that i've stated, that is the reason i made the original post to begin with and as far as canon is concerned, it's purely up to the reader's interpretation but at the end of the day, there is no denying how atrocious the inconsistent levels of ableism can be in these books.

[sprout-battlecats]

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[firestarishomophobic]

may i request tallstar, ravenpaw, & deadfoot ? i'd LOVE to see your interpretations !!! 🤍

ravenpaw looks a bit goofy here i’ll probably redraw him later! but i based him on my gf’s cat :).

quite pleased with deadfoot. renamed him to hopfoot because his kit name was hopkit, and hopping like a rabbit or smth idk.

[lemnnshark]

"Deadfoot is a small, lean black tom with an unusable, twisted left forepaw."

[shittywcdesigns]

40. deadfoot

[cheryxshug-designs]

your blog and your designs blow me away :D have you done deadfoot?

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tysm anon!! heres the man

[airoarts]

Some cute cats

[ID: a drawing of several disabled Warrior Cats characters. Leafstar is a brown and cream tabby with cataracts, sitting down. Crookedstar is a big brown mackerel tabby with his jaw twisted to one side, with some teeth and his tongue sticking out. His nose is also twisted upwards and his eye is squinted. Cinderpelt is a gray cat with a few white spots, with a twisted hind leg she is keeping off the ground. Brightheart is an orange-and-white cat with significant scarring on one side of her face, without an eye, ear, or lip on that side, and scarring over the rest of her body, in a sitting position. Deadfoot is a black cat with a twisted front foot, which he keeps off the ground as he runs. Briarlight is a dark brown colorpoint cat with paralyzed back legs. Her front legs are fairly buff and she appears to be talking to Jayfeather, who is a silver cat with markings like a blue jay on his face and blue eyes, blind from birth. He is sitting and his large ear is pointed towards Briarlight. Longtail is also a silver tabby with scratched blind eyes, which are slightly open with the third eyelid showing. He is relaxed and smiling. end ID]

[duskfeatherz]

you should draw hollyleaf............

sorry this took a hot minute, school decided to ramp up when i posted last time LOL

bonus genetic stuff because im autistic about that

[artaintfart]

deadfoot and tallstar hypokits?

Had to make a deadfoot design just for this!!

[luvwormywarriorsdesigns]

Ashfoot & Deadfoot

[bears-artlogyippee]

Fire and Ice headshots p 1

[lockede-x-it]

Sorry to send an ask about it but I do genuinely find it fascinating how the books treat disability ( fascinating in a bad way )

Like, it /is/ cannon that Deadfoot is proud of his name, and in AUs or rewrites ( like Bonefalls wc universe where Deadfoot is named after their fighting style and disabilities and scars are not the end of a cats life but rather a sign of pride or just something about you ) that's fine, but in the canon material where Snowkit dies to a Hawk ( something that never happens again ) or Briarlight dies to illness randomly, or Brightheart is seen as a " second med cat/med cat assistant ", or Longtail has to retire bc he was blinded, or Jayfeather is shown to be worse at everything his able bodied siblings can do and just /has/ to be a med cat bc of it, or- ok you get it.

Like you pointed out, Cinderpaw is told she can NEVER be a warrior with her injury, yet here's this proud older DEPUTY right across the border doing all that warrior stuff she was told she could never do. And maybe it's bc Deadfoot was born with his disability vs Cinderpelt gaining hers but??? Idk the writing team is wack in so many ways but their portrayal of disabilities has always been odd ( again, in a bad way )

no yeah it's incredibly bizarre to me as well because in Fire and Ice (the book where Deadfoot and Cinderpaw are introduced properly), Fireheart has a positive relationship with Deadfoot and i think it's a disappointingly missed opportunity for Fireheart to mention Deadfoot to Cinderpaw while she was in recovery (especially since he spent most of the book feeling like shit and blaming himself for her accident + Cinderpaw herself was convinced she was useless to her Clan now).

the Erins had such a cool chance of uplifting their disabled audience by having Fireheart and Cinderpaw fight for her right to continue training as a warrior by using Deadfoot as an example instead of just believing Yellowfang at her word especially given the background Yellowfang is from where ShadowClan (at least under Brokenstar's rule) was obsessed with their ideals of strength and (maybe this is my bias towards Yellowfang pre-death) perhaps she internalized her desire to protect those who could be considered worthless by making them become a healer instead to avoid a possibly crueler treatment from her experience (i.e. overworking/overtraining a cat past their capabilities to the point of death)

[tamaaiba]

I kinda don’t like posts about the disabled characters in warriors that compare them to other disabled characters being completely honest. Everyone goes through different things, and just because one person with a similar disability to someone else can work and adapt, that doesn’t mean that other person can as well.

I’m thinking about characters like Jagged Peak and Deadfoot being compared to Cinderpelt. Jagged Peak and Deadfoot could both still carry warriors duties (with Deadfoot even being deputy), but that doesn’t suddenly mean Cinderpelt would manage as well being a warrior.

I think the sentiment of expecting disabled characters to function just like abled people is just… really icky. There is definitely a big ableism problem in warriors that still needs to be addressed, but you still gotta acknowledge that you can’t just suddenly erase a character’s disability in order to make them a warrior in your au.

[ladybug-makes-warriors-gay]

tallstar's revenge was a really interesting book! i think it explored grief and anger quite well, and i like how it resolved that grief and anger. i think the details about talltail feeling trapped by the borders was also something interesting that hasn't really been explored, and of course we get the iconic jake and tallstar pairing. however, there's three big things i want to change, and a couple of other little things too.

for one, i would like jake to have more character other than "polite" and "likes tallstar". i think there was definitely something in there but the authors really just didn't show it. my jake is kind and friendly on purpose, and genuinely believes that you will get further with gentleness and a good attitude. he loves his home and housefolk dearly and would never really leave them behind, but he is fundamentally curious and wants to experience the world around him and explore new places and meet new people. he likes tallstar because he can see that restlessness and, in the end, kindness below the angry exterior he's put up to protect him from that grief.

also, tallstar and jake are actually gay now. they get together right before they end up finding the visitor's group.

the last big thing is deadfoot's name. he is staying hopkit, renaming him to deadpaw was just cruel. i want him to end up named hopheart but that might be too close to hawkheart so we'll see.

a couple little things i'm going to change-the visitors don't stop coming at the end of the book. i feel like the message of the story would go better with tallstar welcoming them back and having windclan be more open about them and teaching their kits to respect them, not just having any possible conflict disappear. also, i think that the situation with the tunnelers wasn't really resolved. i seemed like "everyone just got over it, i guess" and for a piece of lore so interesting i just don't think i want it to be gone after one book. not sure exactly how that'll play out in my au, but the tunnelers won't be gone.

[moltentarts]

Alright I'm going to go ahead and make a poll since I have the day tomorrow and want to start the line up

Top 6 will be in the line up!

And examples again:

[once-a-kittypet]

Deadfoot

First Mention: Fire and Ice (prologue; page 3)